How to Get Out of Your 401k - from Forbes - The In Service Distribution

Retirement Guide
The Great 401(k) Escape
Ashlea Ebeling 02.25.08, 12:00 AM ET


If the offerings in your employer's plan aren't so great, put your money elsewhere.
Ritch S. Wright, now 60, doesn't plan to retire from his job as a Boeing finance director until 2014, when his youngest daughter should be finishing college. Yet earlier this year the Huntington Beach, Calif. resident rolled nearly $1 million, a big chunk of his Boeing 401(k), into an individual retirement account, using a little-known maneuver: an "in-service" distribution.

Employers and 401(k) plan administrators don't advertise this fact, but most workers 59 and a half and older, and even some younger ones, can roll over 401(k) funds while they're still working and contributing to the plan. This option isn't right for everyone. But in some cases it can provide more attractive investment choices, a better way to leave money to your kids or even a chance (new in 2008) to move 401(k) dollars directly into a Roth IRA.

The law allows workers to empty their 401(k) accounts once they hit 59 and a half. They can roll all the money into an IRA without paying tax now. Or they can take cash out, pay any ordinary income taxes due and spend what's left. The same goes for participants in government and not-for-profit savings plans similar to 401(k)s.

The law permits this, but employers don't have to permit it. Still, 70% of companies--and 89% of those with 5,000 or more employees--allow these in-service withdrawals, the Profit Sharing/401k Council of America found in a 2006 survey of 1,000 firms. So do some public sector employers; the federal government, for example, allows older workers to withdraw funds, but only once.

As for younger folks, the law permits them to get in-service distributions of money rolled over from previous 401(k)s; of employer (but not employee) pretax contributions; of employee aftertax contributions; and of account earnings. Here companies are less accommodating--only 16% allow this option, the 2006 survey found. Note that if a younger worker spends the cash, instead of rolling it over, he'll owe an extra 10% penalty on the taxable amount, just as he would if he got a "hardship" distribution from his 401(k) or took a loan from his 401(k) and switched jobs without repaying the loan.

One obvious reason to consider an in-service rollover is to escape a bum plan that has expensive or mediocre funds. Some small plans have annual fees on domestic equity mutual funds that top 2% a year. Outrageous. If you're stuck in one of those, you can chop your costs by rolling your 401(k) money into an IRA at a no-load fund company such as Vanguard, Fidelity or T. Rowe Price.

Even workers with reasonable 401(k) fund offerings, however, may want more choices. Only 14% of company 401(k)s offer a brokerage window that gives you access to a broad array of stocks, bonds and funds. A route around this blockade is to yank the money and send it into an IRA.

Another strategy: roll over part of your money. Jeffrey Bryant, a 56-year-old senior business analyst at PG&E in San Francisco, rolled part of his 401(k) into an IRA so he could invest in seven funds from Dimensional Fund Advisors, including small-capitalization and value funds; there were no comparable offerings in his company plan. He left the rest in his 401(k)'s bond and index funds, one with a rock-bottom expense of only 0.01%. a year--just one basis point. Bryant is buying the DFA funds through a fee-only financial planner at Merriman Berkman Next. So he's raising his total investment costs, even though the DFA funds are less expensive--at 0.29% to 0.74% a year--than the funds he sold off in his 401(k). Bryant is betting that with better funds and professional asset allocation and other advice, he'll come out ahead.

Not surprisingly, outside financial planners and brokers push rollovers, since it gives them more money to manage and collect fees for. Fifty-year-olds, as they near retirement and their 401(k) balances grow, want and are willing to pay for such help.

Wright will continue to invest the smaller amount he left in his Boeing 401(k) himself--he calls it his "play money." But he's handing management of his rolled-over funds to William Jordan, a financial planner at Sentinel Group in Laguna Hills, Calif. "I've reached that time in my life I need to become more conservative," says Wright, who has favored growth and international funds. His new objective: "Making sure I can eat all the way through retirement and making sure there is something left over for the kids."

Jordan plans to increase Wright's fixed-income allocation and construct a ladder of individual bonds with different maturity dates. In his 401(k), which doesn't let him buy individual securities, Wright's only choice would be a bond fund, whose maturity structure cannot be customized.

There are a few other reasons to consider an in-service rollover. One is a provision, new this year, that allows you to roll 401(k) money directly into a Roth IRA, where future earnings will be tax free. If your plan administrator is ready to cut a separate check with just your aftertax contributions, it appears (although the Internal Revenue Service hasn't issued rules on this) that you can roll that money directly into a Roth IRA and pay no taxes on the conversion. For now Roth rollovers are allowed only for those with family incomes of $100,000 or less. That income restriction is due to end in 2010.

Another reason to do an in-service rollover pops up if you're leaving retirement money to your kids or grandkids instead of to a spouse. A spouse who inherits either a 401(k) or an IRA can roll it into his or her own IRA with all the flexibility that an IRA offers its original owner. Kids, grandkids or other nonspousal heirs who inherit an IRA can't do that, but they can keep the money in an "inherited" IRA, potentially stretching out withdrawals and tax deferral for decades. Under a 2006 law change, kids and other nonspousal heirs can roll 401(k)s into inherited IRAs--but only if the employer permits it, which not all do. If yours is balky, get the money out now and put it into an IRA that won't have any employer getting in the way of your family's needs. (A nonspousal heir can't Rothify an inherited IRA.)

Before you rush to roll, consider some advantages to a 401(k). In a good plan the fees, particularly for index funds, may be extremely low. If you retire early, you can make penalty-free withdrawals from a 401(k) at age 55; with an IRA, you generally have to wait until you're 59 and a half. In a pinch you can take a loan (of up to $50,000) from your 401(k) but not your IRA.

Plus, if you hold your employer's stock in your 401(k), you may be eligible for a tax break at retirement. If you transfer that stock to a taxable account, you'll pay ordinary income tax (at rates of up to 35%) only on what the stock was worth at the time it was put into your 401(k). Any further appreciation won't be taxed until you sell the stock and then only at the long-term capital gains rate--which now tops out at 15%. There are some really crazy rules here that determine whether you're eligible for this break. So if you've got your employer's stock in your 401(k), check with your plan administrator and your tax adviser.

safety of your bank deposits - from the Sun Sentinel

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South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
Federal insurance program protects most bank deposits
BY MARCIA HEROUX POUNDS

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

July 20, 2008

A bank failure in California. The federal government's planned bailout of the nation's largest mortgage holders, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The strong possibility that more banks could collapse.

Is your cash safe in the bank? Banking experts say: Don't panic, because most deposits are protected by the full faith of the federal government.

Here are answers to key questions about bank safety:

Q: How do the big banks in South Florida, such as Bank of America and Wachovia, compare with the community banks in terms of risk?

A: The largest banks carry less risk for a depositor or investor because they're too big for the government to let them fail, said Florida banking analyst Ken Thomas.

But size doesn't really matter because your deposits are insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. If you keep $100,000 or less in your name in any bank, you don't have to worry because that money is insured by the FDIC.

Thomas recommends keeping no more than $95,000 in a bank to allow for interest on your deposits.

Q: How does FDIC protection work?

A: All your deposit accounts worth $100,000 and less in one banking institution are automatically insured by the FDIC. That includes savings, checking and money market accounts and certificates of deposit.

Many retirement accounts, such as IRAs and 401(k)s, are insured to $250,000 per person. There are ways to structure deposits to have more than $100,000 in a bank. In a joint account, for example, each depositor is insured up to $100,000. Your bank can help you with a strategy to ensure your protection. Or for help, go online to www.fdic.gov or call 877-ASK-FDIC (275-3342).

Q: In light of the recent failure of IndyMac Bank in California and the troubles of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, should I be wary of my bank?

A: IndyMac bank was "a real high flier," said Miller Couse, chairman of the Florida Banking Association, who says most banks are more diversified in their lending. "It was in all the markets tremendously affected by the housing industry."

IndyMac, like many of the nation's banks, was facing pressures of tighter credit, tumbling home prices and rising foreclosures. In recent weeks it had experienced a run, with depositors pulling out $100 million a day.

The FDIC had no choice but to take over the bank, but like the nation's other FDIC-protected banks, IndyMac's deposits are protected up to $100,000 for each account.

The government's potential buyout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac also has led to faltering confidence in the U.S. financial system. The Federal Reserve offered to let the mortgage giants draw emergency loans and the Bush administration asked Congress to temporarily increase the companies' lines of credit. Fed chief Ben Bernanke told Congress last week that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which hold or guarantee more than $5 trillion in mortgages, are in "no danger of failing."

Q: How can I tell how strong my bank is?

A: One way is to check how banks measure up according to two firms that track them.

Banks with two or fewer stars out of a possible five are problematic or troubled, according to BauerFinancial's star ratings. You can check that at BauerFinancial.com. Local two-star banks are: Integrity Bank, Jupiter; Security Bank N.A., Fort Lauderdale; Ocean Bank, Miami; Republic Federal Bank, Miami; and Great Eastern Bank of Florida, Miami. No matter, your deposits in these five banks are protected by the FDIC.

Bankrate.com in North Palm Beach also monitors the financial health of banks.

You also could go to FDIC.gov and look up your bank's percentage of nonperforming loans — those for which customers are at least 90 days late making monthly payments.

"If you have a bank that has tremendous nonperforming loan percentage, spread those deposits around," said Couse, who is also CEO of First Bank in Clewiston.

For example, of total loans at BankAtlantic, one of the largest local banks in South Florida, 1.25 percent of them are non-performing, mostly commercial lending related to the housing industry, said Alan Levan, chairman of BankAtlantic Bancorp.

Levan said stock investment and deposits in a bank are separate issues. "Stock price is of interest to our shareholders, but totally unrelated to what's happening at the bank," he said. On a year-to-date basis, BankAtlantic's stock has declined 59 percent; Friday the stock closed on the New York Stock Exchange at $1.68 a share, up 18 cents.

Thomas said a financial institution with a low-priced stock isn't necessarily a poor place for a deposit. People don't have to worry about buying a CD there because the FDIC is insuring their deposits, he said.

Q: How much insurance does the federal government have nationwide for bank deposits?

A: The FDIC has nearly $53 billion. The estimated loss to the FDIC from IndyMac is between $4 billion and $8 billion.

Q: How often do banks fail?

A: John Bovenzi, the former chief operating officer of the FDIC who now is in charge of IndyMac, said last week that bank failures have been rare, and that if more banks do fail, the government has enough in reserve. There are 90 banks on the problem list, the FDIC has said. The agency doesn't reveal the banks on the list.

IndyMac is the fifth U.S. bank or thrift that has failed this year, according to the FDIC. In 2007, only three financial institutions failed, compared with the 2,808 institutions that failed between 1982 and 1992.

Still, Thomas said "dozens" of banks nationwide could fail or close this year – not hundreds as some fear. More bank failures can be expected this year, but "not any big ones," said Karen Dorway, president and director of research at Coral Gables-based BauerFinancial, which rates the financial health of banks.

This story was supplemented by Sun-Sentinel wire services.

Marcia Heroux Pounds can be reached at mpounds@sun-sentinel.com or 561-243-6650.



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